{"id":118,"date":"2025-03-02T16:24:31","date_gmt":"2025-03-02T15:24:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/?p=118"},"modified":"2025-03-02T16:34:31","modified_gmt":"2025-03-02T15:34:31","slug":"spin-fixtures-punch-grinders-toolroom-spindles","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/2025\/03\/02\/spin-fixtures-punch-grinders-toolroom-spindles\/","title":{"rendered":"Spin fixtures, Punch grinders, Toolroom spindles"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>One thing that I noticed when learning about toolroom practices around the world \u2013 Europe tends to run separate ID\/OD grinders for even very small and simple operations, while in the USA the surface grinder gets utilized as a universal platform for all sorts of grinding operations, including a fair share of round work.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For grinding round parts, you need a spindle to spin the work \u2013 The most well-known one is probably the Harig Grind-All. Also known as \u201cPunch grinder\u201d, \u201cPunch former\u201d, \u201cWhirly Jig\u201d or \u201cSpin fixture\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery has-nested-images columns-default is-cropped wp-block-gallery-1 is-layout-flex wp-block-gallery-is-layout-flex\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/assfalg1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"1006\" data-id=\"148\" src=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/assfalg1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-148\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/assfalg1.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/assfalg1-300x295.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/assfalg1-768x755.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/assfalg2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"992\" data-id=\"146\" src=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/assfalg2.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-146\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/assfalg2.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/assfalg2-300x291.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/assfalg2-768x744.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Assfalg400 Punch former<\/em> with a sliding v-block<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery has-nested-images columns-default is-cropped wp-block-gallery-2 is-layout-flex wp-block-gallery-is-layout-flex\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/newbould_1-scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"768\" height=\"1024\" data-id=\"177\" src=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/newbould_1-768x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-177\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/newbould_1-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/newbould_1-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/newbould_1-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/newbould_1-1536x2048.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/newbould_1-scaled.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/newbould_2-scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"768\" height=\"1024\" data-id=\"178\" src=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/newbould_2-768x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-178\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/newbould_2-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/newbould_2-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/newbould_2-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/newbould_2-1536x2048.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/newbould_2-scaled.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Newbould indexer with a sliding v-block and a 5C collet taper, when the v-block is removed.<br>(Picture by Adam Demuth)<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>These are fairly accurate devices that can be used for grinding round work, perform direct indexing, indexing via a vernier scale or indexing\/segment indexing via adjustable stops.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Be aware, they are expensive tools, and they should be handled with care.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The earliest version of what we know today as a spin fixture can be found in a patent from 1946 \u2013 Still very crude:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/patents.google.com\/patent\/US2449459A\">https:\/\/patents.google.com\/patent\/US2449459A<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A later patent, granted in 1960 shows already something that\u2019s looking like the spin fixtures we can buy today \u2013 It also shows the bearing arrangement with the single row of balls running between beveled races, forming a four-point contact bearing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.datamp.org\/patents\/displayPatent.php?id=63980\">https:\/\/www.datamp.org\/patents\/displayPatent.php?id=63980<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/patents.google.com\/patent\/US3094821\">https:\/\/patents.google.com\/patent\/US3094821<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>The basic Layout is always the same:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>A housing with a foot, usually meant to go onto a magnetic chuck.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>A short spindle, running in some means of ball bearings. Most designs use a single row of balls running on integral ball races.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Work holding: Semi-Standard is a sliding V-Block to hold workpieces and adjust them to run true.<br>Options are 3 Jaw Chucks, ER Collets Chucks, integral Collet Tapers, Magnetic Chucks or integral zero-point systems like 3R or Erowa.<br><strong>Systems with an integrated ER Collet chucks or 3 jaw chuck are in my opinion a very bad choice for general use<\/strong>, <\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Most have rotational stops that can be adjusted and integral 24 Position direct indexing with a shot pin.<br>Additional systems like the Newbould indexer exist, that allow for very accurate angle setting via differential face gears.<br>Adam demonstrates the face gear indexing in this Video:<br><br><strong>Differential gear tooth indexing<br><\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/3oE2axs0I5o?si=Pyjh15RAdjISfdT1\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/3oE2axs0I5o?si=Pyjh15RAdjISfdT1<\/a><br><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>There is a modification to the sliding V-Block version, that allows a sliding motion in two axis \u2013 the second axis sliding motion is done via a rack\/pinion drive from the backside of the spindle. This arrangement blocks the trough bore of the spindle, which makes it in my opinion less desirable for general work.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Some manufacturers\/sellers call them one-way \/ two way punch formers.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/CCI19012025_0001.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"506\" src=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/CCI19012025_0001-1024x506.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/CCI19012025_0001-1024x506.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/CCI19012025_0001-300x148.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/CCI19012025_0001-768x379.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/CCI19012025_0001.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>This second axis of motion allows to dress wheels at an angle with a diamond held in the V-Block or to create polygon shapes with corner radii offset in two axes. <strong><br><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Applications<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Grinding round\/prismatic Workpieces<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Toolgrinding<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>General indexing\/rotary work<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Other<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Examples of operation:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Tool grinding, ID threading tool:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Grinding a 55\u00b0 threading tool out of a 8mm solid carbide blank.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>All operations are performed using the spin fixture on the surface grinder. The neck of the tool is ground by putting the blank out of center, which is very easy to be done with the sliding v-block.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In general, the surface grinder with a magnetic chuck is a very powerful tool to grind tools, very often faster to setup than a real T&amp;C grinder.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery has-nested-images columns-default is-cropped wp-block-gallery-3 is-layout-flex wp-block-gallery-is-layout-flex\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"709\" data-id=\"151\" src=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_2.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-151\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_2.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_2-300x208.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_2-768x532.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"857\" data-id=\"152\" src=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-152\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_1.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_1-300x251.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_1-768x643.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Grinding the excentric neck and splitting the cutting portion in half. The punch grinder is spaced off the fence with a parallel.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>This is a recurring theme in using them \u2013 They are very universal, but with that universality comes some pain in getting them into a spot that allows you to access the part, not run out of machine travel and not to collide with anything.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-medium\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_3.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"162\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_3-162x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-153\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_3-162x300.jpg 162w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_3-553x1024.jpg 553w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_3-768x1423.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_3-829x1536.jpg 829w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_3.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 162px) 100vw, 162px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Since the spin fixture can be taken off the magnet and go back on very repeatable against the fence, it is easy to take it off, use whatever measuring instrument \u2013 like a toolmakers microscope \u2013 for inspection and go back to the grinder for adjustments.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-medium\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_4.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"177\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_4-177x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-154\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_4-177x300.jpg 177w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_4-606x1024.jpg 606w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_4-768x1298.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_4-909x1536.jpg 909w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_4.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 177px) 100vw, 177px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Angles can be set very easily with angle blocks against the fence.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery has-nested-images columns-default is-cropped wp-block-gallery-4 is-layout-flex wp-block-gallery-is-layout-flex\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_5.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"892\" data-id=\"156\" src=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_5.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-156\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_5.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_5-300x261.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_5-768x669.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_6.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"971\" height=\"1024\" data-id=\"155\" src=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_6-971x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-155\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_6-971x1024.jpg 971w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_6-284x300.jpg 284w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_6-768x810.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/threading_6.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 971px) 100vw, 971px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><br>Tool grinding, boring bar<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This is an example where a boring bar has been ground from a 8mm solid carbide rod to fit a certain application.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The angle adjustable transfer block is a great addition to the punch grinder, it allows very quick angular settings with having to set a sine plate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery has-nested-images columns-default is-cropped wp-block-gallery-5 is-layout-flex wp-block-gallery-is-layout-flex\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/IMG_20240722_235042.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"750\" height=\"575\" data-id=\"157\" src=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/IMG_20240722_235042.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-157\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/IMG_20240722_235042.jpg 750w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/IMG_20240722_235042-300x230.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 750px) 100vw, 750px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/IMG_20240722_235345.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"563\" height=\"799\" data-id=\"158\" src=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/IMG_20240722_235345.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-158\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/IMG_20240722_235345.jpg 563w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/IMG_20240722_235345-211x300.jpg 211w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 563px) 100vw, 563px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Grinding a custom plug gage \/ gage pin<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sometimes a custom gage pin is required \u2013 Cylindrical grinding out of hardened stock is a very viable option.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Here an old 16mm HSS Endmill is cut down and ground to a diameter of 12.6mm. Note that the V-Block has been removed and a ER25 chuck has been installed instead for clearance reasons (The clamp of the V-Block was interfering with the wheel nut.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery has-nested-images columns-default is-cropped wp-block-gallery-6 is-layout-flex wp-block-gallery-is-layout-flex\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/gagepin_1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"789\" data-id=\"159\" src=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/gagepin_1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-159\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/gagepin_1.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/gagepin_1-300x231.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/gagepin_1-768x592.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/gagepin_2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"900\" data-id=\"160\" src=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/gagepin_2.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-160\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/gagepin_2.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/gagepin_2-300x264.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/gagepin_2-768x675.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/gagepin_3.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"988\" data-id=\"161\" src=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/gagepin_3.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-161\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/gagepin_3.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/gagepin_3-300x289.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/gagepin_3-768x741.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><br><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Indexing on the milling machine angular cross holes<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For light duty applications, the punch grinder can be used on milling machines as a workholding and indexing tool.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery has-nested-images columns-default is-cropped wp-block-gallery-7 is-layout-flex wp-block-gallery-is-layout-flex\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/IMG_2325-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"844\" data-id=\"165\" src=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/IMG_2325-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-165\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/IMG_2325-1.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/IMG_2325-1-300x247.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/IMG_2325-1-768x633.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/IMG_2331.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"1023\" data-id=\"166\" src=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/IMG_2331.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-166\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/IMG_2331.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/IMG_2331-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/IMG_2331-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/IMG_2331-768x767.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>In this case, the punch grinder is held in a vise at an angle, to drill angled holes into a small component.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/IMG_2330-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"845\" src=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/IMG_2330-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-164\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/IMG_2330-1.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/IMG_2330-1-300x248.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/IMG_2330-1-768x634.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><em>A tooling ball, superglued to the end of the workpiece is used to locate the work.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The workpiece was too short to be held directly in the V-block of the punch grinder, instead a ER11 collet chuck with straight shank is held in the V-block and used to clamp the part.<strong><br><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Adam Demuth provided me with a wealth of pictures for uncommon setups using different spin fixtures \u2013 Thank you Adam!<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Adam on Youtube: https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@adamthemachinist<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><em>ID Grinding<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery has-nested-images columns-default is-cropped wp-block-gallery-8 is-layout-flex wp-block-gallery-is-layout-flex\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/ID_2-scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"768\" height=\"1024\" data-id=\"167\" src=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/ID_2-768x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-167\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/ID_2-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/ID_2-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/ID_2-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/ID_2-1536x2048.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/ID_2-scaled.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/ID_1-scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"768\" height=\"1024\" data-id=\"168\" src=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/ID_1-768x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-168\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/ID_1-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/ID_1-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/ID_1-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/ID_1-1536x2048.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/ID_1-scaled.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><em>ID grinding a large, hardened ring using a CBN Cup wheel. The work is mounted to a Newbould indexer.<br>Adam mentioned that the Newbould indexers have a stiffer bearing arrangement than others, which is very helpful in situations with heavy\/larger workpieces or large overhangs.<\/em><em><br><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><em>Grinding edge radii on small workpieces<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/image-2.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"260\" height=\"346\" src=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/image-2.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-121\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/image-2.jpeg 260w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/image-2-225x300.jpeg 225w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 260px) 100vw, 260px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Speaking of large overhangs, this is an interesting fixture to put radii on the edges of workpieces.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Adam mentioned some problems with this setup: The spindle axis of the spin fixtures is not that perfectly aligned with the base of the fixture as we would like, and the large overhang is on the edge of practicability for this Harig Grind All Nr. 1.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery has-nested-images columns-default is-cropped wp-block-gallery-9 is-layout-flex wp-block-gallery-is-layout-flex\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/adam_1-1-scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" data-id=\"170\" src=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/adam_1-1-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-170\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/adam_1-1-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/adam_1-1-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/adam_1-1-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/adam_1-1-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/adam_1-1-2048x1536.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/CCI19012025_0002.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"618\" data-id=\"171\" src=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/CCI19012025_0002-1024x618.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-171\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/CCI19012025_0002-1024x618.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/CCI19012025_0002-300x181.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/CCI19012025_0002-768x463.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/CCI19012025_0002.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><em>This fixture is mounted on the spin fixture instead of the stock V-Block \u2013 Two axis of movement are required to get the corner of the workpiece into the right position.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>The first one is sliding the entire fixture in the ground slot of the spin fixture (Red)<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>The second axis is built into the fixture, by sliding the small block, that\u2019s inset to the fixture, side to side. (Green)<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>This block has also threaded holes for work holding and work stops.<\/em><strong><em><br><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><em>Using a spin fixture as a bender<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery has-nested-images columns-default is-cropped wp-block-gallery-10 is-layout-flex wp-block-gallery-is-layout-flex\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/adam_bender_2-scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"768\" height=\"1024\" data-id=\"172\" src=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/adam_bender_2-768x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-172\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/adam_bender_2-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/adam_bender_2-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/adam_bender_2-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/adam_bender_2-1536x2048.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/adam_bender_2-scaled.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/adam_bender_1-scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"768\" height=\"1024\" data-id=\"173\" src=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/adam_bender_1-768x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-173\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/adam_bender_1-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/adam_bender_1-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/adam_bender_1-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/adam_bender_1-1536x2048.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/adam_bender_1-scaled.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Here the spin fixture is utilized in a very uncommon scenario \u2013 As a bending fixture for prototype work.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>A bending blade is held in the V-block and a workpiece rest\/clamp is mounted on a base plate.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>This goes to show the spin fixture has uses outside of grinders\/mills\/jig grinders too.<\/em><em><br><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><em>ID work on a Jig Grinder<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery has-nested-images columns-default is-cropped wp-block-gallery-11 is-layout-flex wp-block-gallery-is-layout-flex\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/moore1-scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" data-id=\"175\" src=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/moore1-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-175\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/moore1-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/moore1-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/moore1-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/moore1-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/moore1-2048x1536.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/moore2-scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" data-id=\"174\" src=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/moore2-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-174\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/moore2-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/moore2-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/moore2-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/moore2-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/gtwr.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/moore2-2048x1536.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><em>This is an interesting setup \u2013 Not with a punch grinder, but a 5C spin fixture, also made by Harig. The principles stay the same, would also work with a punch grinder.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>The spin fixture is mounted against a large rotary table to swing it at an angle. This arrangement can be used for tapered ID grinding, grind radii or to, grind radius pockets.<\/em><em><br><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>There is a hand full of manufacturers making and selling Spin fixtures:<\/strong><em><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Harig<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/harigmfg.net\">https:\/\/harigmfg.net<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;Herman Schmidt<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.hschmidt.com\/areas\/spin-indexing\">https:\/\/www.hschmidt.com\/areas\/spin-indexing<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Imperial Newbould<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.imperialnewbould.com\">https:\/\/www.imperialnewbould.com<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Gin Tech<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gin-chan.com\/en-US\/pfilter1_1_2-punch-formers\">https:\/\/www.gin-chan.com\/en-US\/pfilter1_1_2-punch-formers<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pfeil Magnettechnik<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/pfeil-magnetspanntechnik.de\/Stempel-Schleifgeraet-Delphi1\">https:\/\/pfeil-magnetspanntechnik.de\/Stempel-Schleifgeraet-Delphi1<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>More exist, but thats the common and to me known ones.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Conclusion<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>All in all, a punch grinder of any form is a great addition to a machine shop \u2013 A surface grinder along with one of these devices can solve a lot of problems, replace in a lot of cases a tool and cutter grinder, its useful for metrology purposes or for delicate work on milling machines.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One thing that I noticed when learning about toolroom practices around the world \u2013 Europe tends to run separate ID\/OD grinders for even very small and simple operations, while in the USA the surface grinder gets utilized as a universal platform for all sorts of grinding operations, including a fair share of round work. 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